[BLML] An incredible hand
Herman De Wael
hermandw at skynet.be
Fri Dec 8 08:41:34 CET 2017
Robert Geller wrote:
> Yes, but nothing in the Laws allows the RA to mandate that players use a
> 4321 point count (or quick tricks or LTC or anything else) to evaluate
> their hand.
True, but the WBF does not do that. A weak hand is defined as being a
king or more below an average hand, with an average hand being one with
a 4432 distribution and one card of every rank. So seven points without
distribution, basically. The WBF does not prescribe a way of converting
length into strength, and the usual (1 in your longest = 1 HCP) is
assumed. This would make this hand barely acceptable. But in how far is
this conversion true for an 8-card suit. Eight trumps with QJT is a sure
six tricks, whereas 6 to QJ8 can never be counted for four. So the
conversion does not hold, IMO, and I did not rule illegal system in this
> Let's face it, rules like this are of questionable legality in a strict
> sense, but probably most countries (Japan is one) have some rules like
> this in ordinary events open to all players. Such rules should be
> eschewed in top flight events, but are probably an unfortunate necessity
> to keep the punters coming back.
> On 2017/12/08 9:57, Richard Hills wrote:
>> "The Regulating Authority is empowered without restriction to allow,
>> disallow, or allow conditionally, any special partnership
>> understanding." Law 40B2(a)(i).
>> The Regulating Authority may designate a partnership understanding to
>> open 1S with 3 hcp to be a special partnership understanding if its
>> "meaning, in the opinion of the Regulating Authority, may not be readily
>> understood and anticipated by a significant number of players in the
>> tournament." Law 40B1(b).
>> Best wishes,
>> Richard Hills, significant number
>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Peter Smulders <p.j.m.smulders at home.nl
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>> >Sven Pran wrote:
>> >>I don't understand how any jurisdiction may forbid for instance
>> opening bids
>> >>at the one level with less than 8 HVP.
>> >>What they can do (and what I assume most have done) is to have
>> >>on agreements which implies opening such weak hands at the one level.
>> >>There is a difference.
>> >There is, a theoretical one.
>> >But in practice, when a player opens a particular hand with a
>> >paticular bid (or more general, makes any bid with that hand), then
>> >the Director will ofte have to assume that the particular bid is
>> >So in many cases the difference is only theoretical.
>> >In the current case, the opening bid of 1Sp certainly has the
>> >meaning "I think I can make a majority of tricks in this strain,
>> >partner, if you have three more tricks, you can bid 4Sp.
>> >Certainly a systemic meaning.
>> >So under the old "rule of 18", this opening must be prohibited.
>> >Which only shows that the rule of 18 is not optimum.
>> Most players don't have agreements on freak hands like this.
>> Apparently you consider ideas such as "bid what you think you can
>> make" or "use common sense" a concealed understanding.
>> The hand has 6 solid tricks, and with a partner who is not completely
>> bust but has less than opening values a part score is possible but
>> game is very unlikely.
>> I would not call a call of 1S a psyche, and even if it s, it is
>> certainly not artifcial. Thus it does not meet the condition of Law
>> The RA "v) may restrict the use of psychic artificial calls".
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