[BLML] tangled

Herman De Wael hermandw at skynet.be
Sun Mar 27 10:25:08 CEST 2016


Robert Park schreef:
>
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Herman De Wael <hermandw at skynet.be> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Frick schreef:
>>> Yeah. Okay, the player claims mispull on a Blackwood response. I
>>> calculate there's about a 2/3 chance it was an error, not a mispull.
>>> (You can supply your own percentage if you calculate differently.) In
>>> this situation, do you try to figure out which players are lying and
>>> which are not?
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> I don't want laws that tell me which way to rule in this case.
>> If the laws tell me to rule against them, then I feel bad in those cases
>> in which I am certain the players was telling the truth.
>> And I don't imagine anyone will advocate laws telling the TD to trust
>> everyone explicitly.
>>
>> Herman.
>
> But does this not raise sizable possibilities for introducing bias or favoritism…despite even the best directors' claims that they would never, never do that?
>

Yes it would, and it does, but for the alternative, see my text above.
Surely you don't want either of those two alternate scenarios?

>    —bp
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 19:18:47 -0400, Matthias Berghaus
>>> <Ziffbridge at t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 25.03.2016 um 23:41 schrieb Robert Frick:
>>>>> Let me try again. Someone claims on a simple squeeze. You come to
>>>>> the table and he says he meant double squeeze. Both are
>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Herman, I believe, is saying that he will now try to read the
>>>>> player's mind.
>>>>
>>>> I did not completely read what went on earlier, so I take your word
>>>> for it.
>>>>
>>>>> Look deep into his eyes. Observe his pulse. Look for tells. Judge
>>>>> his sincerity.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just rule he said simple squeeze. No mind reading for me. I
>>>>> have seen sociopaths lie, and I am not good enough to catch
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I know Herman personally, I have some idea of his abilities
>>>> as a dirctor ( never mind that we often disagree, that has nothing
>>>> to do with it). He would catch many a liar, believe me.
>>>> Sociopaths.... they may be a different case altogether. I have seen
>>>> some, and I didn`t  always catch them, as a TD. A lot of things are
>>>> know now are hindsight, and we know what Churchill said about that.
>>>> I would like to encourage you to believe that you _can_ catch them,
>>>> and at the same time realize that you are human, therefor fallible,
>>>> and that you might _not_ catch them this time...  I have had to do
>>>> with people who lied to me, and to everybody else. Sometimes I
>>>> caught them, sometimes not, I will never know how good my success
>>>> rate was, probably not as good as I would like to have it be, but
>>>> assuming that you are not good enough looks like a way to certain
>>>> defeat to me. Confidence in one`s own abilities is important to a
>>>> TD, while realization of one`s shortcomings (and work to remove
>>>> them) is important, too.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't see how my way leads to anarchy.
>>>>
>>>> I can`t, either. Do what you feel comfortable with. It is you that
>>>> has to look in the mirror in the morning. If you can do that all is
>>>> well. Your style may change over the years, or it may not, and
>>>> whether that is right or wrong only you can say. If it works for
>>>> you your players are going to be comfortable, too, and that is what
>>>> they can ask of a TD.
>>>>
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