[BLML] Explaining agreements [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

Sven Pran svenpran at online.no
Wed Apr 30 18:31:12 CEST 2014


I thought there is consensus that giving UI is not itself an infraction of
law, using UI always is?

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> Fra: blml-bounces at rtflb.org [mailto:blml-bounces at rtflb.org] På vegne av
> Herman De Wael
> Sendt: 30. april 2014 17:28
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> Emne: Re: [BLML] Explaining agreements [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
> 
> besides which, Richard's quote is about South's duties, having heard
North's
> misexplanation. There is nothing South can do about misexplaining, it's a
sad
> consequence of forgetting one's system sometimes.
> The problem Alain is talking about is the next one: South, having heard
North's
> "correct" explanation of his own bid (which is of course inconsistent with
his
> intentions) now also has UI.
> This for of UI is not unavoidable. North can avoid it by giving the
consistent
> explanation.
> Richard wants to force North into giving UI to partner, then force South
into not
> hearing that same UI. Unplayable.
> And no-one has yet answered the next question: WHat does director Richard
do
> whan North does not give the UI: rule Missing UI?
> Herman.
> 
> Alain Gottcheiner schreef:
> > Le 28/04/2014 3:20, Richard James HILLS a écrit :
> >
> > Alain Gottcheiner:
> >>Of course not. The only tiny  problem is that the deal is utterly un-
> >>playable, due to the amount of  UI that is transmitted by the
> >>illogical explanation.
> > Richard Hills:
> > Not utterly unplayable; rather a simple requirement of Law 75A:
> > “Whether or not North’s explanation is a correct statement of
> > partnership agreement, South, having heard North’s explanation, knows
> > that his own 2D bid has been misinterpreted. This knowledge is
> > “unauthorized information” (see Law 16A), so South must be careful to
> > avoid taking any advantage from that unauthorized information (see Law
> > 73C).
> > *
> >
> > AG : Perfectly right. But it is so difficult to do, and so difficult
> > to ascertain that that has been done, that there is a very high
> > probability that an adjusted score will be needed, and quite often not
> > the right one. This is one of the most intricated situations in the
game.
> > IOW, we fail at "saving the board". *
> >
> >
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